JEREMY GLOFF PRESS ARCHIVE
Q
and A with Laura Collins
September, 1997
LC: Did you want to tell me
something
about your childhood and what it was like to grow
up in this area?
JG: Well there's definitely a big
difference
between city people and small-town people. I feel kinda
fortunate that I grew up in a small town cause
I kind of like the sense of community that you
get in a small town. I think it added a
lot to who I am as a person.
LC: Did you spend your entire
childhood
in Fredonia?
JG: Yeah. I didn't leave until I
was nineteen.
LC: Where did you go then?
JG: Buffalo, New York
LC: How long were you there
JG: I lived there for a year
LC: Were you by yourself or did you
live
with people? How was that?
JG: I actually moved with my friend
Shauna
(hey Shauna). She was going to college out there and
needed a roommate so I decided I could fill
that
position, so to speak. And I didn't spend
much time alone in Buffalo. I had a lot
of friends and spent a lot of time having friends at the
apartment.
LC: Is Shauna the only person you
lived
with when you were in Buffalo?
JG: Yes
LC: How long did you live there
again
I'm sorry?
JG: I think eleven months, so
basically
a year.
LC: You don't seem to stay away
from
Fredonia very long do you?
JG: It always seems like I'm going
from one place to another-this is always like a home base, so to
speak.
LC: Now what was high school like
for
you? What happened to you there?
JG: Well I was very much an exhibitionist
in high school. I always felt the need to draw attention to
myself by how I dressed, my actions.
LC: Can you give us any examples of
that?
JG: The day before Easter vacation I wore
a one-piece pajama outfit and carried around an Easter
basket with a whip, handcuffs, and a candle in
it. I had long hair at that point and I put it in
pigtails. I guess that day I was the
"Bondage
Bunny" or something.
LC: Did you have a little sign or
anything
that said "Bondage Bunny" or just told people
this?
JG: I think people drew their own
conclusions.
LC: Did you draw any songs from
your
high school experience?
JG: Actually, a lot of what went
on in high school didn't come out till my fifth tape Below the
Velvet. A lot of stuff from high
school actually came out on that tape.
LC: Can you think of any
explanation.
Maybe you weren't ready to deal with it until then?
JG: I think so because a lot of the
problems I had in high school would be dealing with my
sexuality. It wasn't till the point I
made
that tape that I was really comfortable with it so I could
finally go back and take a look at how I lived
then and actually write about it.
LC: The song I seem to recall
standing
out on that tape about just accepting yourself
perhaps is "I Am a Boy."
JG: Yeah that song was definitely about
high school.
LC: Were you involved in any
organizations
when you were high school?
JG: Yeah I was in band.
LC: What did you play?
JG: Percussion. I was in
chorus.
I was in the musicals. Actually my big appearance in high school
was as the rabbi in Fiddler on the Roof.
LC: Is that the appearance
you
gave the radio interview for?
JG: No that was for a different
play
I did once I graduated.
LC: Now you were on the
Camilla
Scott show. That's a Canadian talk show isn't it?
JG: OH GOD! Yeah.
LC: Do you want to tell us
about
that?
JG: It was fun being on a
talk
show but I don't think I said enough cause I wasn't very confident
once I actually got on the stage.
LC: The show was trapped in
the
80s wasn't it?
JG: Yeah
LC: Can you tell us anything
about
the other panelists that were on it?
JG: They were all nice people but
none of the people were actually trapped in the decade that they
claimed to be. I think everyone
just
wanted to get on TV, including myself.
LC: Where was this set and
how
did you get there?
JG: It was in Toronto and I
got there by bus. My friend Julie Gwiz volunteered me to be on the
show so we got a free trip out of the deal.
LC: She went with you?
JG: Yeah she was on the show
with me.
LC: You paired up with
Anne
Fearman for Hot Lunch I believe and you named yourselves
the Basement Lounge.
JG: Yeah we did make one tape
together and actually the songs that became the Heavy
Machinery tape were supposed to
be our second album but we split up as a band.
LC: Why?
JG: I think the way I
work and the way Anne works are completely different. Like for
me,
music
is a 24/7 thing. I think for Anne it was
more of a recreation. The way I worked and the way
she worked just definitely did not work
together.
LC: Did she leave any
kind
of lasting impression upon you, influencing your music in any
way?
JG: Yeah definitely.
It was Anne who pushed me to go towards the guitar. At the point
when
Anne and I started working together I only
played
keyboard on my first two tapes. And it
was always Anne that said "let's get out the
guitar" so if it wasn't for Anne my music would
definitely be different now.
LC: Well that's a good
thing
I think.
JG: I think so too.
LC: You guys went to
Chicago
didn't you or some city out there is seems?
JG: We went to Erie.
We played in Erie a few times.
LC: You were in a club
and
Anne yelled at an old woman looking in. Do you recall what
she said?
JG: Oh this was at
Cuppachino's
in Erie. Anne yelled out the window something like "suck my
clit" or something like that. So I heard
that that coffeehouse no longer had musicians
playing there. So I'm glad we made a
lasting
impression. (Laugh)
LC: Leaving your mark
all
over the place aren't we! What about your first acting
appearance?
JG: Oh god! Well I did
act in the high school musical but my first acting appearance was
actually
in a church video I made in eighth grade.
I was a detective looking for a saint or something. I
can't remember it very well.
LC: What church would
this
be for?
JG: St. Joseph's.
Yeah that was my very first acting appearance-very embarrassing to
watch.
LC: Can we get our
hands
on that tape if we wanted to do you think?
JG: Yeah but I'm not
gonna say how!
LC: Well I have my ways!
After
you graduated high school you said you were in a play or
musical?
JG: Yeah I did two productions with
the local theater company. I did The Odd Couple The
Female Version and I did some other play
that I can not remember the name of. The Real
Inspector Hound. That was the name
of it.
LC: What theater groups did
you
do that with?
JG: The D+F Players.
LC: Can you remember
anything
about that. Like what part you had?
JG: All I remember is
wanting it to be over kind of. Like it was fun but it was a lot
of
work for
little reward I felt.
LC: That's too bad but
you
seem to have found your artistic medium. Now what about the
cover art on your albums. It always
seems to be something different but at the same
time there's a thread running through
all of it that is similar.
JG: Well people who
listen
to my tapes know it's always me on the cover usually.
LC: Except for Below
the
Velvet
JG: Yeah except Below
the Velvet and even that was a cartoon character inspired by me I
guess.
I think because the music so much deals with
who I am that it's only fitting to have who I am
on the cover too. What I look like and what I'm
going through is always reflected by the cover.
LC: Who do you usually have
take
your photographs for your covers?They're all very
clear and concise. You have good
photographers.
JG: I've worked with a few
different people. Someone I work with quite often is Shauna
Rinehuls, the girl I lived with in
Buffalo.
The last two covers I did not work with Shauna on
but many of the ones before that I did.
LC: Is Shauna the
person
who videotaped your video for Jeremy's Wonderland?
JG: Yes she
did.
We made a video for the song "Wonderland".
LC: Is it just
"Wonderland"
or is it "Jeremy's Wonderland?"
JG: The album is called
Jeremy's
Wonderland and the song is "Wonderland".
LC: What about
relations
with other local artists? I know you have like 21 on your
compilation that's coming out soon.
JG: There's gonna be
21 people playing at the show and there's actually thirty different
people
on
the tape.
LC: So you have pretty
good
relationships with the local artists?
JG: Yeah I like to work
with different people. I usually don't work much with college
bands...more people that don't go to college.
LC: Do you feel they
influence
you like perhaps like Anne Fearman did?
JG: I don't think
so.
I think Anne influenced me but around here I haven't really picked up on
much.
LC: What about Another
Dead
Sharon. Do you think they influence you?
JG: Yeah
definitely.
I lived with them in Atlanta. Listening to their music and stuff
definitely made
me push my sound into a more experimental...
LC: You can hear
that
on Jeremy's Wonderland and Songs About Stupid People.
Tell us about Atlanta a little bit.
You didn't seem very happy there.
JG: Oh it was a
nightmare.
I was talking about it to a friend yesterday. I said it was like
making
a jigsaw puzzle and having only one piece left
to put in, and then trying to fit a piece from a
different puzzle in there. That's how I
felt in Atlanta. There was no way I could fit into it.
LC: You picked up some
of
the slang down there didn't you?
JG: You know that's
right!
LC: Do you feel
that
your homosexuality is maybe precluding you a little bit from the
fame that you seem to seek? Do you
feel
maybe people are less likely to open
themselves up to your music because "oh God
he's gay I don't want to be listening
to that" or something?
JG: Well I think if
anything
a lot of times what I am trying to say in a song is missed because
that's all people can focus on. Like
if
I'm doing a love song that would totally seem
"normal" if I was saying "she" in
it, people can't get past the fact that I'm saying "he"
instead of "she".
LC: Yeah do you think
that
might perhaps keep people from sitting down and listening to your music
a lot of the time?
JG: I'd say
sometimes.
But I also think that maybe my music is changing people's views on that
because it is so down to earth.
LC: Yes it is good but
it
is also very easy to get caught up in certain things. Now where
do you draw your inspiration from? It
seems like a lot of it does come from being
spurned in love but you also have your
mother and caring about your friends and
stuff...
JG: Throughout the
albums
I've made every album has a theme...and where I'm getting the
inspiration from is definitely different with
each album. Like on
Jeremy's Wonderland I got
a lot of inspiration from traveling and from
the sky actually. And just from trying to feel
good. Every album definitely has its own
points that I draw from.
LC: You seem to have a
growing
fascination with the sky. Do you have anything to say
about that?
JG: Well I did go
through
a bad phase in my life and a lot of the times that was my only comfort.
I'm getting out of that phase a little bit...
LC: How old were
you
when you produced your first album?
JG: Nineteen.
LC: And how old
are
you now?
JG:
Twenty-two.
I am going to be twenty-three in a couple of months.
LC: How many albums
have
you released?
JG: I have made eight
albums.
LC: So that's like eight
albums
in three or four years. That's prolific.... Now you have a
fun little anecdote about Dicky Barrett, the
lead singer for the Mighty Mighty
Bosstones don't you?
JG: Yeah he played at
Fredonia
and my friend was trying to pick him up (that would be Anne
Fearman from the Basement Lounge) and I pushed
her out of the way and pushed a copy of
my tape on him and said "HERE'S A GOOD TAPE
TAKE
IT AND LISTEN TO IT!"
LC: And did he ever
listen
to it?
JG: I never heard
anything
from him again.
LC: Well that's too
bad!
Do you think he listened to it?
JG: Probably, hopefully.
LC: Won't you just die
if
they release a cover of one of the songs on it?
JG: Yeah that would be
something.
LC: Now your music really
seems
to have grown since your first "I'm a nineteen-year-old
this is my music" and now you're
twenty-two.
It really has grown a lot in such a short
period of time. Can you give us any
sort of explanation for it?
JG: Well definitely once
again
Another Dead Sharon comes into the picture. With their
equipment and stuff it's been a big help.
And my friend Josh has shown me the ins and outs
of how to record well. Other people
have come into the picture too that have shaped the
music like right now I'm working with a guy
named
Andy, working on some songs for my
next album. And I think that's a step up
from the album that's out right now even.
LC: Jeremy's
Wonderland?
JG: Yeah.
LC: How much do
your
albums usually cost?
JG: I sell them
for two dollars. Two to three dollars.
LC: That's a like
unreasonably
low price for such great music. How do you feel about
re-recording your songs? I know a lot
of artists feel that is wrong, that just shouldn't
be done, because once you do it that's the
way it's done. You really don't seem to shy
away from that. You recorded "You Could
Never
Love Me" twice: on True Stories and
on Below the Velvet. "Hollow
Bodies"-you have two versions of that on Songs About
Stupid People.
JG: Yeah a lot of times the
reason that that's done is cause something that happened to me once-
it takes on a new life. And like there's
more to the story or the words mean something different. Whenever
I re-record one of my old songs it's definitely a different
version.
I don't think I've ever done the same song twice.
LC: No I don't think
so.
"Prince Charming"-you have another version of that coming
out on this upcoming album.
JG: On the upcoming album
there
is a new version of the "Prince Charming" song from Hot
Lunch and that will also be on my
compilation
I am coming out with.
LC: Do you
have
any idea when your new album will be coming out?
JG: Hopefully
February
or March. Sometime in the late winter / early spring.
LC: Well
we'll
look forward to that. How did you go about casting your
video?
You
have a new video coming out.
JG: Well
I walked into a meeting at the college and I saw this kid sitting there.
LC: What
kind
of meeting?
JG: The
gay/bisexual
blah something something something
LC: Okay
JG: And my friends told
me about this kid that's in a club-the Rocky Horror Picture Show club
that would fit the video-the concept I was
looking
for-and actually when I saw the kid I felt
like he was someone that I wanted to be in my
video.
LC: What about the
other
people in your video? Were they just sort of hanging around
your house and you said "come be in my
video?"
JG: Yeah my friend
Kortnee
made an appearance in the video and that was kind of like spur of
the moment "oh why don't you walk up there" and
my friend Toad's also in the video and I
think she's a very good image for the
camera.
I definitely wanted to use her character in the video.
LC: Did you go into symbolism
of
did you just think "oh that looks neat?" I noticed you
sort of frolicking in a creek with a sheet
on in the very beginning.
JG: Well there definitely is
symbolism in the video. The first half of the video shows just me
in
some very strange situations. And I think
in the first part of the video I was putting myself in
some very uncomfortable positions-like I was
freezing in the water- then the second half of
the video shows me finding comfort or happiness
in a way- and that kind of deals with the song.
LC: Is there any
symbolism
in you and Jason Piper's character in front of the church
with Toad?
JG: Basically what that
was showing was I was on one part of the church and he was another. It
was a separation between two people. Like
we were never together.
LC: So it
wasn't
"THE CHURCH" or anything?
JG:
No.
Well in a way.
LC: It was?
JG: A little bit.
I wanted to use a church because my sexuality is so unaccepted in the
church.
It
was kind of funny because during the filming
of the video a lady poked her head out the
door and said "hopefully what you're filming
is appropriate for the church" and I said "Oh it
is!" but if only she knew the concept I
was going for.
LC: What about the
railroad
tracks? I believe you had them on the inside cover of
Jeremy's Wonderland too except here
you were on one track, and Jason was on the
other and then Toad was in the middle.
JG: Yeah there was
definitely
more with the separation theme. At the end of the video me and
Jason become more of a unified...
LC: And I notice that
Toad
pulls you together. Is there any kind of symbolism in the
female bringing you together or anything?
JG: Yeah she's
definitely
the guardian angel or whatever you wanna call it.
LC: Does the fact
that
she's a girl have any sort of meaning in it or is it just she's sort of
like a person...
JG: I think it's
definitely because she's female-there's always a more sensitive caring
side to the
female than there seems to in the male.
LC: Skipping back to
high
school. You had a party for Madonna's Girlie Show. Do you
wanna tell us about that a little?
JG: We did have a party
where we all became characters like out of a circus troupe and we all
dressed up in our costumes upstairs while the
audience waited downstairs not knowing
what to expect and we all came down wearing
various
outfits that I should not specify at
this time. It was definitely a shocking party
for our age. (laugh)
LC: A
dominatrix
party?
JG: Yes it
was a dominatrix party. I don't do that anymore though! I've
tamed
down a lot.
LC: (Laugh) A
much
more mature Jeremy Gloff is sitting before me. Now
Songs About
Stupid People- that was recorded
mainly
in Atlanta wasn't it?
JG: All songs but
one were recorded in Atlanta.
LC: Which
song
wasn't?
JG: "The
Sorcerer"
LC:
Okay.
And "Fredonia" is on that isn't it?
JG: Yes it
is.
LC: That's
a
rather bitter song for your little home base isn't it? Harsh...
JG: Yeah
I was a very bitter person at that point.
LC: Now did you
have
any kind of different sources of inspiration for Songs About Stupid
People than some of your past albums
because there was kind of maybe a recurring person that inspired you
until
then?
JG: Yeah...
LC: Was that like
"the
last one"-the end of an era of inspiration for you?
JG: That album
definitely is the hardest album for me to understand out of any of
mine.
The
whole thing was just about trying to make it
through to the next thing. I wasn't happy
anytime, and any of the songs I wrote
I never felt like they were good songs when I was
doing them. There was a big question to
whether to it a ninety minute tape or a sixty minute.
LC: Can you give us a
little
background about your major source of inspiration for your
love songs? Are you comfortable
telling
us about that?
JG: Um...I had a bad
experience with this kid named Scott in 1994 and no matter how much I
grow up or whatever I go through I just can't
seem to get over it ever. And I'll probably
write him for the rest of my life in a way.
LC: Do you think
he
was your soul mate?
JG: I don't
know...yeah
I guess I kinda do.
LC: There didn't
seem
to be any on Jeremy's Wonderland about him were there?
JG: No that
was the first album I've made that there was not even a mention of him
in any lines.
LC: Have you ever
been
in love with a girl?
JG: Yeah...I
think
back before I did my first album there was this girl named Katie.
Nothing
sexual ever happened between us but I was--as
much as you can be in love with someone
at seventeen-I'd have to think I was in love
with her. I don't know if I was cause when I
see her now it's just a friendly "hi" but at
the time it definitely felt like it.